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There are probably not a ton of people here who would disagree with the phrase "the USA needs more tech workers." There are probably quite a few who disagree with the phrase "the USA needs more tech workers at the expense of its current tech workers."

Do you see the difference? If MS, Google, Cisco et al want to import workers, they should be paying them the same amount as their American counterparts, rather than pulling them in to be temp workers and lay off higher cost employees.



> "If MS, Google, Cisco et al want to import workers, they should be paying them the same amount as their American counterparts"

They are. You're pointing the finger at the wrong people. I've met many a Google/MS/Amazon/Facebook H1B and they are all making very good salaries, on par or better than their American peers.

This list should be enlightening:

http://www.myvisajobs.com/Reports/2014-H1B-Visa-Sponsor.aspx

The top 6 places are all outsourcing and consulting shops, and as expected their average salaries are dramatically lower than the "real" tech companies in the mix like Google, Microsoft, et al.

This trend holds true as you go down the list. Companies that do their own tech are paying on average high wages (even Wal-Mart, heh), while consultancies are the ones hiring people in the $60K range.

H1Bs are a bimodal distribution. One the high end you have Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and the such, who are paying their employees well into the six figures and anecdotally, competing for top talent. On the low end you have Infosys, Wipro, Tata, Accenture, etc, who are importing vast numbers of low-pay engineers. Note that Infosys imported in a single year 15 times the number of people Google did, at only 60% of the salary.

If you want to start somewhere, it'd be useful to look at Infosys, Wipro, Accenture, and the rest before you start rapping on Microsoft's door.


Hm... I do know tech companies are much better than the consultancies, but your source doesn't compare H1 salaries with W2 salaries. I seem to recall another set of data with Cisco in particular paying H1s much, much less than W2s, though I couldn't find it again in 18 seconds of Google searching.

This probably all circles back around to the social and employer pressure against sharing salaries thats been circling around HN the past couple of days.




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