Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

I have to take some issue with his:

> When you're starting out with LaTeX, Leslie Lamport's LaTeX book covers all the basics, and it makes a good reference for all of the common things you'd like to do in LaTeX.

> LaTeX, as it turns out, is a deep rabbit hole. (It's Turing-complete.) When you're ready for your black belt in TeX-fu, Donald Knuth's TeXbook is how you get there.

> This is not an introductory book. This is for hard-core TeX users.

LaTeX is essentially a macro package on top of TeX except TeX and/or it's basic macro package Plain had to be tweaked a little to enable some of the functionality of LaTeX.

His description of Knuth's The TeXbook is not correct: The book is nicely "introductory". Also for an introductory book on a technical topic, the quality of the writing of this book is excellent, one of the best, world-class, maybe exemplary.

I read the book in late 1994 in about two weeks and have used TeX for all my high quality word whacking since then. I use TeX for all my letters, both business and personal, used TeX for one peer reviewed paper in some applied math for a problem in computer science, and used TeX (to document for myself) the core, original applied math for my startup.

I have about 150 macros written in TeX for simple lists, ordered lists, unordered lists, titles, table of contents, cross references, various cases of verbatim (where get to type text that looks like TeX commands but the text gets treated by TeX just as-is or verbatim instead of as TeX commands), some automatic push down stack dynamic storage that conforms to the scope of names rules of the nested block structure, etc.

Part of what is good about TeX is the ability to write macros; any TeX user should be able to write a macro of a few lines easily as needed, if only for some one document.

TeX, without LaTeX, is fine, perfectly usable.

And for a "black belt in TeX-fu" read the five volumes or so of Knuth's detailed documentation of the source code of both TeX and Metafont.

LaTeX is now quite an advanced macro package, far beyond my 150 macros or what a user should try to write for themselves. But, the manuals that describe LaTeX well are much thicker than Knuth's The TeXbook and, in my opinion, less well written.

Mostly people who want to do high quality word whacking, especially with some mathematical material, with TeX or LaTeX likely should just start with LaTeX and there maybe the book the OP recommends, Leslie Lamport's book.



Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: