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Initially I liked the idea, but the more I think about it the more this feels like it just boils down to: only allow contributions from a list of trusted people.


Well a lot of useful things are not useful because they are innovative, but well designed an executed.


And...that's bad?


Not until you are wrongly considered "untrusted".


It is never wrong to be considered untrusted. It is only occasionally right to be considered trusted. Especially in zero-risk relationships that is the default on the anonymous internet.


Being considered neutral is different from being explicitly considered untrusted.


It's similar to old Usenet "killfiles" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_file

...or spam "RBL" lists which were often shared. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System_blocklist


This makes a lot more sense for large scale and high profile projects, and it eliminates low quality slop PRs by default with the contributors having to earn the trust of the core maintainers to contribute directly to the project.


it also increases the barrier to new adopters

why not use ai to help with the ai problem, why prefer this extra coordination effort and implementation?


That's the whole point. There are many new adopters and few competent ones.


I mean to well meaning contributors, I understand the goal of vouch, I think it goes too far and you'll turn off said well meaning contributors

I certainly have dropped off when projects have burdensome rules, even before ai slop fest


These projects would rather miss out on a few good people to stop the bad ones over the alternative.


I think there are better alternatives, we'll let the market weed things out

For example, I will keep making them spin wheels and burn tokens / money, a sort of honeypot, adversarial shadowban. This is even better for disincentivizing them.

Will automate it if it ever gets bad


The barrier in the Ghostty project is to simply open a discussion. It's not really hard.


What about fixing a typo in a comment?

Do I have to start a discussion before I can submit a fix for a two char swap?

Also, my statement was general, why are you making it about one?


As Mitchell said, the rules of engagement are defined per project. I'm giving you an example.




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