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One thing that absolutely savages my mind is the fact that those on the nominal left-wing have abandoned this obvious truth and focused on an ideology that benefits some sort of global majority versus their own theoretical constituents.

The perfect example is Bernie Sanders going from "immigration is obviously bad because its a tool capitalist's use to undercut American labor" to generic racial grievance "progressive" guy.



I feel like you’re confusing free movement of goods/capital with free movement of people.

The two can have different policies applied to them. It’s a bit silly to use “globalization” to mean both.


I'm not confusing anything, so your comment ended up being useless noise.


Oh ok, maybe I need to spell it out then.

If goods and capital are free to move across borders, it doesn’t matter whether people are coming to your country or staying where they were, because you’re competing against them either way.

And, capital can move way, way faster than populations. We are competing against the entire nation of China. There are over a billion of them. Have a billion people moved to the United States in the last 20 years?

Right wing media is counting on you to not be paying attention.

There a fewer factory jobs now than there were 30 years ago. Did Mexicans come and move into those factories? Or did the factories move to Mexico?

Pay attention.


You're hand-waving the effects of a labor surplus created by immigration on wages.

During covid-19, when immigration was suppressed and the labor surplus was attenuated, something amazing happened -- wages rose across the board in America.

Yes, outsourcing is a huge issue. It is dealt with in various ways, and there are substantial barriers to in sourcing (my company has tried to do this, but decided to hire in America due to substantial costs).

Immigration is also a huge causative factor impacting wages and labor bargaining.

If you're a protectionist, that's good, I also support that. But you should probably apply your ideology across the board rather than selectively, which I suspect you cannot do due to your partisanship.




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