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My Lenovos have been fairly good, better than the Dells or HPs I've had to use.

What about Framework?



Terrible battery. Maybe amd would change this but these are not shipped yet


That’s a shame and a shame 18650 packs aren’t as viable anymore compared to custom sized lipos. 18650 sockets would be a dream for a laptop. It’d be like a kids toy, just pop out the batteries and swap in new cells when it’s dead. Better yet do 4-6x 21700s.


for me, I don't want to swap batteries, I want a laptop that can work a lot on it's own and have proper sleep state. After trying m1 mac, I don't see myself buying anything else just bc battery life is so good and absolute lack of noise for Air model, even if it's worse for repairability. I'd better buy a new mac with good experience than buy a rapairable/upgradable framework with much worse power consumption (and trackpad)


I’m not in the USA, so warranty on these alternate brands is a nightmare.

My Lenovo is ok, but I don’t see it continuing forever. I’d say they’re riding on the fact they were part of IBM.


They have be "riding" that for a long time now.




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