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Except they don't? I hate the speaker sound on the Mac I use for work.

Unless "so good" in the title means "not as awful as other shitty laptop speakers", but even that is a poor statement, when the text in the link makes only mentions some vaguely interesting technical musings, without comparing it to anything else.

The way the title is written makes it sound just like any other inane data point of people gushing over Macs.



Different people are going to have very, very different standards for what sounds good in speakers.

For me, the MacBook Pro speakers sound great. My HomePod mini sounds fantastic. Because a) they're literally the best speakers I have ever owned, and b) I have never made Getting The Very Best Sound a priority; it just doesn't matter that much to me. Most of the time, I listen on AirPods.

For other people, music and high-quality sound are more of a way of life. They probably own speakers that cost high three figures (or more) individually. They are more likely to find the MBP speakers to be subpar. I'm guessing you fall into this category. And that's fine: it's just a question of different priorities.

The important thing, for people on either side of that fuzzy line, is to recognize that the other people exist, and in the latter case to recognize that the former group is by far the larger one, and most people in it haven't really heard what day-to-day audio is like from really high-end speakers.


I am going to be less generous and suggest that some people just want to hate on macs for the sake of hating on macs. Sticking it to the “man”.

I’m a bit obsessed with audio.. and I never expect my laptop speakers to match the quality of my fancy headphone setup that probably nets for about $4K.

They are no high-end speaker, but compared to any other laptop speaker I have heard they are amazing.


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Thanks for proving his point.


Except, you're proving mine.

In a thread full of people gushing on Mac speakers, me saying it's an okay but overpriced machine is considered "hating for the sake of hating"


But that's not what this subthread is about. It was about different people having different priorities. fsociety remarked (quite correctly) that there are a large number of people who constantly feel the need to denigrate Macs, no matter the context—and you came in and said, basically, "That's not true. I have a Mac, and I don't like it very much."

Were those your words? No, but it sure sounded like it was your implication. You didn't just say they were overpriced (which would be a common complaint, but these days needs a lot more citation, given their extremely good performance per watt, and overall build quality). You said they were ridiculously overpriced, which implies that no reasonable person could look at one and think it was worth buying.

You came into a subthread that pointed out that there are people who like to gratuitously hate on Macs, and you tried to paint it as being the opposite, while damning them with, at the very best, faint praise.


> fsociety remarked (quite correctly) that there are a large number of people who constantly feel the need to denigrate Macs

And in response I remarked (very accurately) that there's an even larger number of people who constantly feel the need to always gush over anything Mac. This very thread is full of such examples.

> "That's not true. I have a Mac, and I don't like it very much."

Misrepresenting much? I said it's an okay laptop. Gets the job done.

> You said they were ridiculously overpriced, which implies that no reasonable person could look at one and think it was worth buying.

That's true. I can get other okay laptops for perhaps half the price. But they won't be as sexy as Apples. They certainly don't have fanboys taking offense at someone saying they are just okay.

> You came into a subthread

I was the one that started the subthread, by daring to say that the M1 I use has a speaker as bad as any other laptop I used. Oh the horror.


The speakers sound amazing to me and are magnitudes better than any other laptop speakers I've had. You saying they are not and that we're just "circlejerking over anything Mac" is objectively false.

Now stop trolling. Your other obnoxious comment about this was flagged and killed. Do better.


The speakers are amazing on my M1. I'm constantly surprised how beefy bass and clean sound they can produce. Don't recall them being so great on my previous MacBooks though.


I wouldn't describe the speakers on the M1 I use as amazing. It's more or less as bad as the speakers of previous laptops I used.

I mean, it is a speaker. Good enough for simple sound feedback on most applications. Music on it sounds bad.


Yeah, ok. I presume that by your standard anything less than FLAC on a Bowers & Wilkins Nautilus is unworthy your ears but for us mere mortals the MacBook M1 speakers sound amazing for music as well. It's a massive improvement compared to any other laptop speakers I've heard.




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