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Individually, even most of the rich don't directly pollute so much as entire industries. On the HN front page there's an article stating that shipping companies have collectively spent $12 billion to cheat and instead of polluting the air, they pollute directly into the sea while technically adhering to standards.


Who do you think directly benefits from that industrial pollution?

Consumers.


But the solution for consumers is for the industry to be tighter regulated and pay more for goods, not for consumers to become ascetics. Consumers can't simply make industry change how they serve other consumers.

You can't stop murder simply by waiting for anti-murder people to stop murdering.


My point is more around who benefits. It’s not industry alone.

And I would argue consumers have a very big impact on how industry acts. There are a number of environmentally friend products offered that are regulatory requirements at all.


I would have said share holders


When consumers get cheap products because environmental regulations are being ignored, they certainly benefit.




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