Pre-Disclaimer: I don't mean to only pick on Google here, it applies to any company that collects such a vast amount of personal data on users. Also.. nothing personal :)
>Actually, Google has.
In extremely vague terms, yes. I want to see an itemized list.
For e.g. At company X, this is what we collect:
1) Your Name, age, location, DOB.
2) Your location is sent to COmpany X every 10 minutes
3) Your IP is tracked per-session
4) All this data is linked to your profile
5) Any thing you type in the search bar is sent to a company X server
6) After anonymizing (if we do it) this is what your data looks like
7) We never delete any of the above for the following reasons
etc,etc,etc
>And moreover, Google has been consistently on track to store less private data.
The default should be zero/as little as possible collection of data. From what you've said it seems like people can opt-out of some data collection, but its vague as to the specific nature of what data is still being collected versus what isn't.
>Hope the links I referenced will help dispel this notion. Google does take privacy seriously.
Unfortunately they don't. I won't dispute your second claim.
> The default should be zero/as little as possible collection of data.
Really? What about telemetry for self-driving cars? Is it immoral to develop a system that leads to less blunt trauma and death on roads? We (HN users, I don't work for any of these companies) can define your term "as little as possible" about like you seem to define parent's term "seriously". The point being that such adjectives are difficult to pin down but also difficult to avoid. Define "difficult" however you see fit.
They own the cars so they can track them all they want.
Tracking me all over the place after I click the "Do Not Track Me" button isn't acceptable.
> Is it immoral to develop a system that leads to less blunt trauma and death on roads?
It quite could be. Just as we humans decided to not use the scientific research generated by the Nazis on unwilling human subjects there are definite limits to what is acceptable even if the overall benefits are huge.
Collectively, we did no such thing. Many individual researchers and journals refused to use Nazi research, but many felt that it was unethical not to use it if it could save lives. In particular, I believe that the results of Nazi hypeothermia experiments were extensively used after the war. It's certainly not a cut-and-dry problem with an obvious ethical answer.
>Actually, Google has.
In extremely vague terms, yes. I want to see an itemized list.
For e.g. At company X, this is what we collect:
1) Your Name, age, location, DOB. 2) Your location is sent to COmpany X every 10 minutes 3) Your IP is tracked per-session 4) All this data is linked to your profile 5) Any thing you type in the search bar is sent to a company X server 6) After anonymizing (if we do it) this is what your data looks like 7) We never delete any of the above for the following reasons etc,etc,etc
>And moreover, Google has been consistently on track to store less private data.
The default should be zero/as little as possible collection of data. From what you've said it seems like people can opt-out of some data collection, but its vague as to the specific nature of what data is still being collected versus what isn't.
>Hope the links I referenced will help dispel this notion. Google does take privacy seriously.
Unfortunately they don't. I won't dispute your second claim.