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It seems to me that we have the resources and technology to solve a lot of problems for good, but a permanent (or even just "better") solution would get in the way of profit. (I saw the documentary "who killed the electric car" recently, which describes one instance of this.)

There was a discussion here on HN a few weeks back about automating and simplifying taxes http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1072955

Automating and simplifying certainly seems like the right thing to do - but lots of people would lose jobs. On the other hand, they would be free to do something more productive (in the larger sense, producing value instead of papering over the cracks) and certainly more interesting!

Why can't we just automate away the boring stuff, and just work less? I'd be interested to see if it were possible to open source more than software. (Open source organic farming, anyone?) I know, I know, this is utopian and unrealistic and probably plain silly.

I'm not trying to suggest that we should all go create a hippie commune and get rid of money, but not solving a problem right because of some legalese or pure profit just seems wrong to me!

Another thing that I find perplexing is that the depression doesn't only put people with automatable jobs out of work. My father is an extremely talented craftsman. He builds traditional log cabins, wooden boats, furniture, beautiful houses... Right now he is living in a van, and not-quite eeking out a living picking fruit. He sells a couple hundred lbs of fruit a few days a week. He also shoots deer every once in a while which provides protein.

He's this great resource, but hasn't had a job for well over 2 years. If he didn't have to worry about food, he'd work for the sheer pleasure of creating something useful and beautiful. The thing that confuses and frustrates me is that my father would be delighted to work for free provided that his needs were met (seriously! Food, a beautiful view, a sauna, and some poetry. Seems simple enough, right?)

He loves to build beautiful things, and certainly there are people who need houses (even small log cabins would be an upgrade for many). I don't know what the solution is (obviously). It just seems strange that legal tender or lack thereof could get in the way of creating real value.



It's not about legal tender; that's just a way to exchange value. It's a brutal truth, but worth is defined by what resources people are willing to give up for something. If they are not willing to trade their resources for yours, you have NOT created real value, but destroyed it, by consuming resources that people would pay for and creating something they won't.

In the same vein, railing against profit is ridiculous; Profit is the difference between your inputs and your outputs. If you don't create a profit doing something, you are again destroying value. (It's perfectly legitimate to have a profit in non-monetary terms, though. In that case it's you who is making the decision to trade more resources for less, because the process or result has value to you; You decide on its worth, and pay the price.)


I'm not railing against profit in itself, I just find that sabotaging a good solution that would profit many people (but not you in the short term) is illogical.


There's a carpenter shortage in canada, why doesn't he work there


Excellent question, and thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to look into it!




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