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In your volume example, imperial units only divide cleanly for certain factors (e.g. 2 in your example), from certain starting points (e.g. two pints) and within certain ranges (keep dividing a cup by 2 and it stops dividing cleanly).


Yep. But it stops at ... one ounce. So a gallon can be divided cleanly by two seven times. It's naturally no coincidence that a gallon is 2^7 ounces. :-)

I'm in favor of the US switching to metric (I'm American, but have lived in Europe for the last 7 years), but just trying to give some context on what I believe are some of the niceties of the Imperial system.

A "cup" is a much easier notion to get your head around than "about 50-70 ml".


A "cup" is a much easier notion to get your head around than "about 50-70 ml".

This opinion can only come from exposure. Whenever I see "one cup" in a recipe I'm 100% baffled. A big cup? A tea cup? One of those larger coffee mugs? Trying to judge what is actually meant here can leads to volumes differing about two to three times in scale.

Give me centiliters, desiliters and liters any day.

I still have no idea what a cup is. And 50-70 ml seems way too little to make sense, so I will just assume you pulled those numbers out of thin air.


Fortunately, all ingredients in a recipe are usually given in 'cups'. If you use the same cup for all ingredients, the proportions of the ingredients stay the same, which is the most important part of a recipe.

It does not matter if you use a big cup, a tea cup or a coffee mug. The meal will still taste good, as the proportions are kept.

While for a 'metrical' recipe you need something that can measure weight and volume, for a 'cup' recipe you just need a cup, no matter what kind of cup.


I realize this is totally derailing the original topic, but I'd just thought I'd correct one incorrect assumption you've made:

Fortunately, all ingredients in a recipe are usually given in 'cups'.

Not even remotely true. Especially with "cups" of water and "tablespoons" of chilli the results can be rather interesting ;)


1 cup = ~250 mL = ~1/4 Liter = 237 mL



It's a huge market but how much they will be able to tap into it remains to be seen.


Maybe, but 15 years ago "just google it" would have sounded strange too.


There's strange and then there's overly long. Google rolls off the tongue.

Also, Google is fun, maybe even a little silly. DuckDuckGo is childish. It makes me think it's a search engine for toddlers.

I'm willing to admit I may be wrong, but I think that name will hold them back.


I also was thinking, "This should be a kids site". I like the idea of a search engine for kids. You could concentrate on indexing only "kid safe" and "kid related" content. What a perfect name for that.

As for the length of a name, and if it "verbifies" easily, these are things I agonize about a lot. Perhaps we're taking too much upon ourselves. The users will find a way to talk about it easily, if they need to talk about it at all. "America Online" -> AOL, "Treasury Inflation Protected Securities" -> TIPS, "The Federal National Mortgage Association" -> Fannie Mae, etc.


I somewhat agree with you. In the long-run in my opinion it will hinder widespread adoption because, as you said, the name just sounds silly. But right now the name probably helps them because it generates attention and is memorable. But how DuckDuckGo thinks about this when it comes to a long-term perspective I don't know.


It's harder to change names later. Google both generated attention immediately and was long-term viable.

The product will generate attention in the long run if its good.


I completely agree with you. The name isn't the best it could be if thinking ahead.


The word is cheapskate not cheapstake.


They have the 40 minutes rule for reasons of efficiency, the policy is clearly stated so I don't see why you were upset - you should arrive earlier. As for the fog, not much Ryanair can do about that I'm afraid.


I'll agree with you on the fog, a little. In the US, if a flight gets delayed for Weather, the airline still gets you home somehow. Ryan Air offered to refund my airfare only.

As for leaving earlier, I read this statement as "it was your fault you were late, you should have left earlier, and you deserve what you got."

I've flown Ryan Air many many times and I knew the airport well. I also knew when to leave to get there on time. Unfortunately the parking lot was torn up from construction, making the nearby spaces filled, and it took me a long time to find the poorly labeled alternate lot.

At the time I was annoyed because I felt I had done what I was supposed to do and there was nothing stopping them from providing the service. i.e. the security line was non-existent and I was there 35 minutes before take off.

The policy is what it is, but I think what really got to me the most then (and thanks to you reminding me) is the presumption that I did something wrong by not anticipating the construction and that I deserved to be punished by strict adherence to the policy.

In the US, we consider this very poor customer service.


So this straw man driver swerves for unexpected road markings but not for unexpected cyclists? Not only is he drowsy but insane too?


Well, if he's made of straw and he's driving a car, he's probably possessed, in which case it doesn't really matter.


Standing charge in the UK? Not sure where you get that idea - treatment with the National Health Service is free.


The self employed pay 2.4 pounds per week class 2 NI contributions + 8% class 4 NI contributions for earnings between 5700 and 43875 a year. So if you don't make a profit you pay 2.4 pounds pw which is around $15 per month.


Why the hysteria? This is a useful tool in detecting and preventing serious crimes in the modern world. I think it's a good thing.


without a warrant. Certainly I want to police to be able to search people's homes if they are likely to commit serious crimes. However, I don't want the police to be able to search my home with out some sort of evidence that I have done something improper. Similarly, I consider the data on my computer private. I think that history suggests that the government cannot be trusted to use authority responsibly unless there is some sort of system in place to guarantee that it uses its authority responsibly. That system is called warrants.


"This usually leads me down a path of questions that result in me having to teach myself something to build something to solve a particular problem which fulfills a need." - but better make a quick post to hacker news first.


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