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Bold of you to assume competency will overpower politics in our current era.

So far, the country I know best, the US, has been competent enough to avoid massive corporate bailouts except the aforementioned banks in 2008 and GM. The bailout of GM was not motivated by a desire to avoid a recession when a bubble pops.

If the AI labs become very influential and powerful, Washington might nationalize them, but that would be very different from bailing them out because they have become unprofitable and cannot attract additional investment from the private sector.


You forgot about the $9b bailout to Intel in August of 2025.

With the recent OpenAi deal with the government I am certain they would throw tons of money at OpenAi if it got real bad. But with upcoming IPO where they are expected to be valued at $840b, we would be a LONG way from them needing a bailout. Well past this current admin.


Despite politics, TARP was arguably an economic success story for the US treasury despite public sentiment. Whether it created moral hazard or not I suppoae is up for debate.

GM on the other hand should have been left to die.

However, I was obliquely referring to the open transactionality and patronage encouraged by the current administration, and how the AI / big tech players have, with few exceptions, gleefully joined in.

Unless they run out of money for bribes, I think it's inevitable that current government will bend over backwards to prop them up.


a bailout is a popular way in which public funds lose their publicness.

Do the examples of the banks and GM suggest that it is likely that AI companies will get a bailout to avoid the bubble popping?

The reason the banks bailouts did not involve nationalisation is that the US is very reluctant to nationalise anything.


> So why do so many people want to keep coming here?

They don't, in fact, at least not anymore:

"We estimate that net migration was between –10,000 and –295,000 in 2025, the first time in at least half a century it has been negative."

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/macroeconomic-implication...


I would say to you who would equivocate and dither about lending your skills to a morally and ethically compromised war machine in exchange for a fat paycheck, the same thing that I teach my children:

"Everything and I mean everything can be taken from you except your integrity, only you can give that up"


Defense doesn’t pay better than regular tech. The people in defense are doing it because they believe in helping the govt.


I used to work in defense, and this is not true either. People work in defense because it is effectively a job where you can never lose your job except for absolute gross misconduct, have a hard-cap of 40 hours a week / 80 hours a pay cycle (commonly leads to people working "9/80 schedules" and taking every other friday off), and generally speaking you have a lot of chances to move around org charts when programs change. A "cushy" job with very low chance of being fired with a stable paycheck is valuable to a lot of people.

There are also missions people find valuable, like SBIRS ground, where theoretically real lives are being protected. I know a lot of people who enjoy finding meaning in their work, and there are many programs that bring that level of satisfaction (again, look at things like SBIRS ground).


I would argue those at OpenAI or Anthropic are making considerably more than just "regular tech"


Most reasonable take in the entire thread. Thanks for writing.

> peace is something that requires cooperation.

Funny that many people consider peace as simply being left alone, forgetting that we are fundamentally social animals and there are many very real benefits of being part of a (functioning) society.


And discord is a terrible tool for knowledge collection imo. Their search is ok, but then I find myself digging through long and disjointed message threads, if replies/threading are even used at all by the participants.


Not to mention, it's not indexed by search engines. It's the "deep web".


Yes, its a treasure hunt every single time when some project has most of their discussions on discord. It's awful imo.


An algolwiki is a great idea, but I just wanted to say I got a good chuckle from this, thanks :)

> May I suggest "PASTE": Patterns, Algorithms, Solutions, Techniques, and Examples. "Just copy PASTE", they'll say.


This has been a moral panic in Sweden recently too. It came out of nowhere and seeing the news now in the UK, it sure feels coordinated.

The Liberal Party (what's in a name, anyway?) are campaigning to make it illegal in Sweden, go figure.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/liberalerna-kriminalisera...


> It came out of nowhere and seeing the news now in the UK, it sure feels coordinated.

There seems to be a network of NGO who supplies "news" to a lot of EU "news outlets". Seeing the same, almost out of context, news in two different corners and languages of the continent, is surreal.


It's very out of context and so obviously coordinated.

It is also very strange to see the repeated attempts to import US culture war issues to Sweden. Often completely unrelated to Swedish national issues, just blindly throwing stuff at a wall to see what sticks and capture headlines for a few weeks.

The far-right Sverige Demokraterna party does this regularly, but other parties often fall for it too.

A more paranoid person might say it resembles Active Measures operations of a hostile foreign government that wants to distract and sow chaos in western states, but who knows...


Immigration is a civil matter, not a criminal matter.



In those cases yes, but ICE is disappearing people who have entered legally and are awaiting a CIVIL immigration hearing on status changes, etc. The cases you reference are a small minority of those being detained and deported.


Can you evidence any of that?


75% of ICE detainees have no criminal convictions per ICEs own stats, however they conflate "immigration offenses" like filing errors with illegal entry so its impossible to tell from their own statistics to answer your question.

I might also add that, like it or not, asylum claims are a positive defense to illegal entry under US law and you can ONLY claim asylum upon US soil.

ICE has extreme arrest quotas now and are routinely exceeding their authority and violating the due process rights of of immigrants in thr US to meet those quotas.


> 75% of ICE detainees have no criminal convictions

1. Can you cite this?

2. I assume you mean, for things other than the putative illegal entry itself. Of course, that would still have to be proven, but it is still potentially a criminal matter. Fining people who are legally not entitled to be in the country, does not remedy the fact of them being in the country without legal entitlement.

> however they conflate "immigration offenses" like filing errors with illegal entry

How is this a conflation?

> I work in immigration law and can tell you that nearly all of the people we represent

The selection bias is clear; they're hiring legal representation because they have a case (and because they can afford to).

> ICE has extreme arrest quotas

Can you evidence this?

> violating the due process rights of of immigrants in thr US

What exactly do you consider that these rights consist of, and how are they being violated? Can you evidence this?


Why was my other reply flagged? In what way did I say anything objectionable or counter to HN guidelines?


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It is not a lie, immigration, is primarily a civil issue with civil enforcement. You don't get a lawyer, you don't get your case heard in Title III courts. There are a few things that are capital C crimes related to immigration, but the bulk of the current enforcement is related it civil immigration matters.


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75% of ICE detainees have no criminal convictions, per their own stats. This isn't goalpost shifting.

Immigration is a civil issue in the US, full stop. Immigration courts are administrative courts, not Title III criminal courts.

You are obviously a brand new bot account so I will mute you and move on.


For what its worth, this like the out of office email autoresponses is likely an illegal use of public funds. Portland, Oregon's airport has refused to show it claiming as such.

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2025/10/kristi-noem-vide...


I've found a lot of utility in this. Small throw away utility apps where I just want to automate some dumb thing once or twice and the task is just unusual enough that I can't just grab something off the shelf.

I reached for claude code to just vibe a basic android ux to drive some rest apis for an art project as the existing web UI would be a PITA to use under the conditions I had. Worked well enough and I could spend my time finishing other parts of the project. It would not have been worth the time to write the app myself and I would have just suffered with the mobile web UI instead. Would I have distributed that Android app? God no, but it did certainly solve the problem I had in that moment.


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