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>>practically impossible for modern citizens to overthrow a corrupt government.

However, given a sufficient percentage of the population which is interested in doing this, it would be very difficult even for the US military to completely conquer.


And moving to five children is another level. :) Parenting is what you do not a side project. Also the effects of parenting are more like keeping a good culture going and showing what are healthy ways of relating so that children can relate well to each other and enjoy being part of the family.


Have you had the fish from well run systems like this? I think it is fantastic. Data point of one.


I'm not normally a picky eater, but seafood in general is one thing I have a really hard time bringing myself to enjoy. Also, from my very limited understanding, tilapia is fairly delicate to begin with, so it's more about making sure your cut doesn't include much of the grey fat.

With all of that said, I'm sure that for people who do enjoy seafood, it'd be quite tasty. The business near me was put together with eco-conscious people in mind, so the care they put into farming- nutrients, food for the fish, etc. I'm sure the difference between their fish and wild fish is a good deal smaller than stereotypical farm-vs-wild-caught salmon or what have you.


>> Unsold inventory is the curse of retail.

Absolutely. I run a small retail pet-farm store location. This is such a curse, that I often wonder why it isn't talked more about among small retailers. Certainly the salespeople from the different suppliers never ever talk about about it for obvious reasons. The problems with not talking about it to me is that I may go out of business if I don't understand this principle/curse.


I use Square all day every day here at my pet store. The killer feature for Square is the consistent pricing. There are no add on fees and no clowning around. You get the same 2.75 percent on (almost) every transaction and it builds a lot of trust. There are a few cards where it goes up a little but not enough to bother me.


Stripe is well known for the same


>>learn Pennsylvania Dutch and join the Amish.

I know Amish people and have grown up Mennonite. There is a significant way of thinking that is very hard (though not impossible) to overcome coming in. This is true even if you have a supporting Amish community and find language learning easy.

I am very interested in this process and how it feels to those on the outside coming in. Let me know if you attempt this.


I was going to say something very similar. People have a (faulty) fake radar and if you are trying to just remarket crops without raising them yourself, you better have a good sales line if the next stall over is a family selling the produce that they have grown themselves. People like to meet and support the person who is responsible for the entire process.


And now I am very glad that I never used Google Drive for much of anything. I never had a good gut feeling about drive in general and especially after I read about a man who lost a year's worth of stuff with no recourse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6612854


Not to say that there aren't valid reasons to think twice about relying exclusively on Google, but the title is slightly misleading in that Google isn't really deprecating Google Drive with no replacement, but rather introducing both Backup and Sync, which behaves like Google Drive (plus some new features), and Drive File Stream, which behaves more like a network drive.


Drive isn't shutting down. The older desktop app is deprecated, replaced by Drive Backup and Sync and adding a new product which is effectively a network filesystem built on top of Drive.


Unless you know someone on the board of Alphabet, there is no reason to use Google software for anything important.


>>Having a 1 acre garden as a hobby, is huge ecological violence

Can you explain how this hobby is so violent? I don't think I am following the line of thought.

The typical one acre hobby garden is farmed with far fewer chemicals than the typical commercial farm. There is far more diversity and a better balance of minerals. Compost is often used and waste is effectively recycled.


>>Having a 1 acre garden as a hobby, is huge ecological violence

..context dropping..compared to the lawn or parking lot that might be there?


I think the parent meant that people having 1 acre hobby gardens are wasting space that could be more efficiently used by industrialized agriculture, and thus if you'd replace modern farming with family gardens, you'd destroy many more animal habitats.


The space isn't what is used efficiently by industrialized agriculture (for the most part). The efficiency comes from saving time by having large machines. Space is used most efficiently when you have people actively involved on small plots.


> Space is used most efficiently when you have people actively involved on small plots.

Wouldn't the area needed for the active involvement of people require more space than commercial agriculture, where large machines can do a lot on a small footprint? A sprayer with 12 inch tires and a 120 foot boom can effectively 'weed' 118 feet of growing area with just two feet required for the tires. I'm not so sure a person with a hoe can beat that.


You can plant crops much closer to each others using an hexagonal pattern. It's one part of what constitute "biointensive gardening". The only way to beat that is if the harvesting machinery is hovering over the field.

And s sprayer only spray, it does not harvest anything. They actually make UAV sprayer, though...


> You can plant crops much closer to each others using an hexagonal pattern.

A traditional seed drill, for crops that can be suitably planted with one, plants rows 7.5 inches apart and spacing within the row is even closer. There is really no room for a human to comfortably exist within that space without tramping the crop. I'm not sure I understand how a hexagonal pattern opens up space for a person in that circumstance without reducing the growth area?

> And s sprayer only spray, it does not harvest anything.

For many crops you're not concerned about, even desire, wiping out the entire plant.

> They actually make UAV sprayer, though...

Certainly. Crop dusting has been a thing for as long as flying has been a viable human achievement. Although with larger and larger machines on the ground able to have a smaller and smaller footprint relative to the working area (and precision technology ensuring that the machine obeys an exact footprint), the practice seems to be going out of favour.


I really wonder what how much food could be produced if all the lawn and empty lots in a city were effectively productive as vegetable plots. I know that it can't be used because people like their lawns and things but often there is unused space in densely populated areas.


It isn't even that they like their lawns. It is the cost of labor to do this. The Salinas and Imperial valleys (where 85% of US veggies are grown) concentrate labor and other inputs in a way that you never could in small plots.

It is the same thing as we could assemble cars in almost any workshop or hangar, but we build cars at scale in only a few places.


The trick would be getting people to have and grow their own edible lawns. Then the cost is the same as keeping the lawns of today, but there's a more useful return. It's only a values issue. In Russia for example small gardeners produce 40% of the nations food. http://naturalhomes.org/naturalliving/russian-dacha.htm

And perhaps the evolution of tools like https://farmbot.io/ An intelligent 'lawmmower' makes your permaculture for you.


> Then the cost is the same as keeping the lawns of today

By far, the biggest cost of my lawn is the 5 minutes per week I have to spend cutting it. How does an edible lawn compete with that?


>It is the cost of labor to do this

Robots? Anyone know the state of automation when it comes to small scale gardening? Picking or zapping weeds and pests with a laser or whatever.


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