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This is especially good for those who think government exists to 'serve' them and is their 'servant.' Maybe this will make them wake up to the reality of who is actually the servant (slave). ;)



When you've hoarded so much cash and denied others a better life, it's easy to 'donate' like this.


Just to give the counter-argument, he has also created a lot of (technical, well paid) jobs for a lot of people all over the world over the years.


Always good to keep the following quote often attributed to Voltaire in mind : "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."


Google is not preventing the Daily Stormer from spewing their swill. They aren't interfering with the Daily Stormer's rights in any way. They're just refusing to support the Daily Stormer on their commercial platform. In that, Google is well within their rights. The Daily Stormer is capable of taking their business elsewhere.


Of course Google has that right. I question whether it will have the intended effect, though. Pretty sure isolating extremists tends to cause further extremism.


No, isolating the communities from which extremists are drawn causes further extremism, isolating extremists does not.

There is a challenge in isolating extremists while not isolating (and, indeed, productively engaging) the communities from which members are radicalized, and quite often brute-force efforts to isolate extremists (especially ones keying on race, nationality, and religion) end up isolating the feeder communities with the extremists, which is about the worst possible outcome.


Actually they are not. Once a domain is transferred it has a 60 day lock on it and can't be transferred to another registrar. It can only be transferred back to the losing registrar if there is some of accident or other clearly defined reason. This is to prevent people from shifting domains around primarily to avoid IP enforcement or UDRP problems.

Honestly this is a terrible precedent they have here. I am surprised they are doing this (if true and hence why I questioned the entire story) because it puts them at a disadvantage in future cases as far as 'why didn't you stop xyz domain registration that is now responsible for my child's death after I wrote to you and put you on notice'.


The fact that they were evicted from Go Daddy and only briefly (an hour) registered with Google is really the Daily Stormer's problem akin to your shifting domains around to avoid IP enforcement example.


Google has every right morally and legally to not wish to provide a platform for hate speech.


The more Google chooses what content is hosted on their platforms, the less authentic their claims of independence from the content and the more liability to which they should be exposed.


They're not hosting anything.

These Nazis got kicked off one registrar and decided to make it Google's problem.

Companies have every right to choose who they do business with.

There are plenty of registrars out there that have no issues with hate speech. This is just a PR exercise for the Nazis.


I was responding to the general statement made in the comment to which I replied.


The funny thing about hate speech is that no one can make a unanimous conclusion for what hate speech is.

Nowadays hate speech is a euphamism for any idea or opinion someone doesn't like, so the term hate speech has lost its meaning. It now means using gender pronouns to refer to people, using gendered job names, saying that men and women are born with different brains, saying that there's only 2 genders, saying that feminism is cancer, saying there's a link between islam and terrorism, saying that black people underachieve in society due to genetics instead of the evil racist oppressive white male - and much more.


Well you pretty much just concisely spelled out your political leanings.

>no one can make a unanimous conclusion for what hate speech is

Would it be a "unanimous" conclusion if it were a conclusion drawn by a singular person or entity?

>It now means using gender pronouns to refer to people

Do you have an example of this being identified as hate speech?


> Would it be a "unanimous" conclusion if it were a conclusion drawn by a singular person or entity?

Which singular person or entity should be responsible for determining what "hate speech" is? According to SJWiki I am a neurosexist for believing that men and women have different brains and that gender is not a social construct. Should SJWiki be trusted? According to the ADL, Gavin McInnes and Mike Cernovich are hate preachers. Should the ADL be trusted?

> Do you have an example of this being identified as hate speech?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMl4kIxw-jo

Also it's a slippery slope because once the "hate speech" clampdown happens, we'll then be punished for microaggressions, so even if you're not a racist, you'll be seen as racist for asking what race or ethnicity someone is?


No one needs to defend Nazis.


Hell I won't defend u you if u threat to kill me. That applies to Nazis pretty well.


> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Please notice that the quote is not "I disapprove of what you say, but I'll offer you my house for you to say it".


This is not offering your house for it. That would be if google was actually hosting their site on its servers. In this case it's a domain pointing to their content. As a registrar Google is serving the public and I doubt you can deny someone this service in a moral sense. Can a doctor deny to treat them if they end up in his office for serious injuries? What if all registrars deny them, is it morally right to effectively erase them from the internet for simply expressing their thoughts?


> As a registrar Google is serving the public and I doubt you can deny someone this service in a moral sense.

Actually, you can deny anyone except protected categories.

> Can a doctor deny to treat them if they end up in his office for serious injuries?

Yes, the doctor chooses not to treat patients with the illness or injury you suffer from.

> What if all registrars deny them, is it morally right to effectively erase them from the internet for simply expressing their thoughts?

Nobody is being erased from the internet. Also, they can open their own registrar system.

So no, there's no obligation for Google, or any other registrar, to host their information.


I hope you dont end up in an emergency hospital with the only doctor who can help you refusing to do so because he doesnt like you for some reason.


So do I, but that doesn't change reality.

And a hospital might fire a doctor for refusing to treat you.


"Having made that decision we now need to talk about why it is so dangerous. I’ll be posting something on our blog later today. Literally, I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn’t be allowed on the Internet. No one should have that power." http://gizmodo.com/cloudflare-ceo-on-terminating-service-to-...


But does that involve expending your resources allowing them to?

Also, isn't this Google/GoDaddy expressing THEIR speech by removing users who violate their TOS? Remember, GoDaddy was ok with hosting the site until an article defaming the woman who died on Saturday started making the rounds.


Keep that in mind as Nazis put a boot in your face


The "us" vs "them" conflict between men and women goes back thousands of years and was introduced with specific purposes. My personal research on this can be found at https://blog.kareldonk.com/sexual-suppression-and-repression...

We'll start perceiving everyone as "us" as soon as most people realize what I discuss there.


> My personal research on this

Freud and ... aliens. Yeah, right, sure.


Holy crap I'm glad I scrolled to the Summary.

But the author missed the golden opportunity to take a shortcut to the "us". Nothing will unit men and women like an alien hostile mining race!

PUT ASIDE ALL PETTY GENDER DIFFERENCES JOIN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE MINER ALIENS THE WORLD NEEDS YOU!


Sure. Investigate before dismissing.


from the link

> Many thousands of years ago a technologically advanced race of extraterrestrial beings came to planet Earth to mine metals


Yes as strange as it may sound you may want to check my references and investigate.


The references seem to try and poke holes into our current understanding of evolution (and I agree it's still very incomplete) and suggest that an alien arrival is the best reasonable explanation to fill the gaps. I'm not sure that's very convincing.

What's even less plausible is an alien visitor, having all the technology necessary to get to earth, somehow needing humans for the purely physical task of extracting metals. I mean we ourselves are now almost capable of automating mining yet haven't made it past our very own moon.


Why make metal robots when you can manipulate DNA and make biological ones?


There should be no middle men. Only a direct P2P model will truly benefit everyone.


I disagree. There are shared services that Patreon provides that would be a pain for creators:

- Payment processing: Patreon consolidates all payments under one gateway account so fees are low for everyone.

- Support: What happens if the payment fails? Creators don't want to deal with that mess every month, it's less time to do useful stuff.

- Abuse handling: Patreon can deal with spam comments and the like.

- Service hosting: They integrate all this stuff in one place that creators don't have to host themselves.

- Consolidated management for Patrons: As a subscriber it's nice to see all the stuff I'm supporting and how much I'm paying for it in one place.


I would also like to add Ease of Use to your list.

I have had to help several of my Patrons with basic tech support issues, like setting up RSS feeds in their podcast app. And I doubt that they would be able/comfortable with working with a service that is not as easy and straight forward as Patreon.


The only way to make it purely P2P is to make it non fiat based.

And when you try to do that, you have suddenly alienated 99% of your potential audience of supporters.


This is what happens in statism. Time to wake up, slaves. Google my name and statism. Read.


This is what statism looks like. Hopefully people learn the right lessons quickly now. Statism is enslavement. Google it.


A basic income wont solve any problems in a sustainable way as long as governments exist: https://blog.kareldonk.com/governments-and-basic-income-why-...


The Sumerians already knew it existed, and much more: https://blog.kareldonk.com/planet-x-nibiru-an-analysis-of-ak...


Ancient aliens... yeah mmkay...


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