I've recently written about another compute heavy global illumination approach, which is all but impossible to pull off using WebGL: https://juretriglav.si/surfel-based-global-illumination-on-t...

After this experiment (and some that are in progress), and some very recent movement on raising the bound storage buffer limit in Chrome (https://issues.chromium.org/issues/366151398), I can't help but feel that we're on the cusp of an AAA-level experience built exclusively on the web. I'm super excited for the future of computer graphics right in your browser.

> Chez Panisse is a famous restaurant in Berkeley, California that serves seasonal and organic food1. The menu changes daily and is posted on their website2. Today’s menu for the restaurant (not the cafe) is:

> Fennel and leek salad with rocket, toasted almonds, and salsa verde > Bomba rice cooked with clams and squid; with aïoli > Becker Lane Farm pork loin roasted with Spanish paprika and green garlic; with > braised greens and wild mushrooms > Meyer lemon sherbet with candied kumquats > The price for this menu is $175 per person2.

That seems to be correct.

https://www.chezpanisse.com/1/restaurantmenu/

This is what's there for today:

- Fennel and leek salad with rocket, toasted almonds, and salsa verde

- Bomba rice cooked with clams and squid; with aïoli

- Becker Lane Farm pork loin roasted with Spanish paprika and green garlic; with braised greens and wild mushrooms

- Blood orange and vanilla ice creams with Page mandarins

There are also live demos of the app and marketing pages:

1. https://tailwindui.com/page-examples/landing-page-01

2. https://tailwindui.com/page-examples/detail-view-01#

Plus a screencast on how to use it to build these pages: https://vimeo.com/393580241/82c6d7c5f6

1. https://angry-hypatia-f1529a.netlify.com/

2. https://github.com/philippbosch/tailwind-ui-purge-css-exampl...

If even the creator of Tailwind doesn't use Tailwind properly, does anyone?

"PHP is an awful language, superior developers write in Perl."

"Rails is bloated and slow, making it unfit for any real work."

"True developers don't rely on frameworks, writing all your own code is the only way to be performant."

If you wanna handicap yourself, be my guest.

I've written three or so projects in TailwindCSS, and it lets me create responsive designs quickly. It gives me a very sane set of defaults to build off of. And most importantly, it helps me get a product to production faster than writing raw CSS.

personally having written css since I was a teenager, my gut reaction is "eww", but if the team or stakeholders deem it to add value to a project and not affect productivity, sure why not?

I can not force myself to use something like this but I’ve been writing CSS for a long time.

I use BEM and predefined sets of colors and space values to ensure consistency and that’s efficient enough for me.

CSS frameworks are great because there is a flavor that should fit just about anyone.

The use case is for creating Template Components with something like React, Vue, Hugo, Razor or another component template framework. Tailwind offers a large list of customizable variables to use to help keep your CSS consistent. You're still pretty much writing CSS though, just with shortcuts. I consider it Emmet CSS + Variables. I also highly suggest using a plugin for your editor that offers hinting on all the crazy names no matter what CSS framework you use.

If you want a higher abstraction, Bootstrap or Foundation provide that. There is now also this Tailwind UI that you can purchase that would also provide that to some degree.

Whether building a regular website or a web-app I generally just use component names (like .card) the same way. I'm more of a fan of defined components with limited variations though than people being able to change anything with a lot of utility classes. Sort of like having a succinct API with a constrained depth. I see css as an api to the original designs and Tailwind introduces too much freedom for my comfort! I will endeavour to give it an honest trial though and maybe I will meet you somewhere in the middle.

See how dumb that sounds?

Yes, you can check off on your list that you no longer have any .S files. But did you actually gain anything?

> Most C libraries do too much.

> They come with all sorts of predesigned components like functions and structs that might help you move quickly at first, but cause more pain than they cure when it comes time to make your program stand out with custom behavior.

> Tailwind C is different.

> Instead of opinionated predesigned components, Tailwind provides low-level utility macros that let you build completely custom functionality:

    void main() {
        BEGIN_TAILWINDC
        MOV(RAX, 4);
        MOV(RDI, 1);
        MOV(RSI, "Hello world!\n");
        MOV(RDX, 13);
        INTERRUPT(128);
        END_TAILWINDC
    }

Ooh, and then the creator of Tailwind C would start selling the Tailwind C Library, with like an implementation of memcpy that you just cut-and-paste into your program every time you need to copy memory.

The leap between vanilla css and tailwind is not large at all.

Assembly: raw html and css C: A framework like Tailwind Python: Components, like TaildwindUI or any of the React components I’ve seen

I think that’s not a bad analogy.

Caveat: not a UI developer, I’ve mostly done backend work And DevOps for quite some time.

It's an interesting concept.

It’s way too much effort for me to want to mess with, and then you have to repeat the same things for every site you make.

Why would you have shared in-house css and components? Just write vanilla css right?

Tailwind is that shared in-house css and components for people/team that don't have shared in-house css and components. If you can afford to build one, sure use that!

This is made for prototyping too, this is to get to the MVP quicker. Again, if you have a shared in-house css and components library that does the same, sure use that instead, it makes much more sense!

> Those were fine when I was a jr developer - not anymore

That's a scary sentence. Why do you believe it matter whether you are junior or not to use that library? A library is made to avoid doing twice the works. If you already did that work, you don't need that library, that's for sure, but it's totally unrelated to your level as a developer.

I'm not particularly against JavaScript, but I'm not willing to install and use npm and several hundred dependencies.

All documentation for purgecss always includes postcss and a gazillion other packages I have never heard of.

Maybe something in Go, as a single executable?

still in js, but very fast, ~10KB (min), 0 dependencies, and does not require npm [1]:

however, it expects properly formed html and css; the parsers are quite unforgiving.

(i'm the author)

[1] https://github.com/leeoniya/dropcss/tree/master/dist

https://purgecss.com/CLI.html

Good luck being a employable lol

plus javascripts

But I think a lot of people wouldn't just replace the CSS framework, they'll rethink the whole UI and everything that goes with it with a big operation like that.

</sarcasm>