IDK how anyone makes anything of Copilot 365. My wife knows I use models all the time to build things, so she asked me to help her use this "Copilot" thing. I flailed around on her work laptop for a few hours and I'll be damned if I came up with anything more useful than things I could already do with some hotkeys. I'd ask it to do things like I would a coding model and it would just come back with instructions on how to do it myself or find things in the application menus.
I have no clue what to do with that, I can't see any value in it at all, so I'm guessing I just couldn't wrap my head around the gestalt it uses. There has to be something there, right, or why would all the muckity-mucks be so excited about it?
Last time I used Gemini I watched it burn tokens at three times the rate of any other models arguing with itself and it rarely produced a result. This was around Christmas or shortly after.
It's still not uncommon for it to escape it's thinking block accidentally and be unable to end it's response, or for it to call the same tool repeatedly. I've watched it burn 50 million tokens in a loop before killing the chat.
No. It's still shit. It can do some well contained tasks, but it is very less usable on production codebases than gpt or claude models. Mainly because of the usage limits and the lack of good environments for us to use it on. Anthropic gets away with this because claude code, as bad as it is, is still quite functional. Gemini cli and antigravity are utter trash in comparison.
Exactly my experience. I remember thinking to myself that if this is what people get exposed to when they try to use a coding agent, no wonder there's so much bad-mouthing going on about LLMs. You use CC and you get usable output without much hassle, and in the end it costs way less because you aren't fighting with a substandard model.
Frankly, Gemini seems like Codex was two years ago. Lots of back and forth and nothing of value in the end.
Good lord, don't hire a plumber to fix the pipes, you'd better do it yourself then. Maybe you like plumbing; then plumb. But most people will just pay for the person that does a good enough job that they can take a shower in the morning. Personally I think I do a better job so I do it myself, but my wife sure as hell wouldn't, and shouldn't.
The sheer selective blindness is mind boggling. I get so sick of seeing this virtue signalling.
> don't hire a plumber to fix the pipes, you'd better do it yourself then
This but unironically. I'm self-taught; what I've seen from people with normal education is a complete inability if not fear of learning any skill on their own after they get their degree.
Delegating is great, but learning something for yourself is better, and much easier than many seem to believe.
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