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Thanks for these. They both look 'high end' rather than small and customizable, but I'll check them out. Thanks for the tips and links


I'd offer a hosted version. Most people will not want to go about setting up S3, dealing with private keys etc. Where's your market?


Our core focus will be businesses that want to control their own storage.

Is entering your S3 secret ID and key too cumbersome for most customers?


Yeah, I think it is too. As technical people its not a big deal for us, but you should make it as easy as possible for people otherwise you'll lose the business to a potentially inferior competitor who makes it nice and easy


Since one of the target market is businesses, I would assume they have at least 1 guy to do that for them (enter S3 key and ID). They aren't going to be part of your market if they don't.


I (respectfully) don't agree with the fact that all the .com names have gone, but I do agree with creating a brand name. I've registered some great names after doing some serious searching. We created a domain name finding tool to mix and match names and one that does mix and match stuff with vowels and consonants. In addition, we've also purchased some .coms for reasonable money (hundreds of dollars, but not into the thousands) that have definitely been worth it and are memorable.


Haha. Your true colours are showing


Good points! Apple is a BUSINESS :) Hey, and guess what - it seems to be working for them


Interesting. I was thinking more of 'business' stuff, but there's always a correlation between business and topics such as rise and falls of empires. Thanks for that!


If you're talking business books try The Rebel Sell "How the counter culture became the consumer culture". and I book I love for it's story telling is Boo Hoo "$135 million. 18 months... a dot.com story from concept to catastrophe".


Wow, this sounds awesome. I'll go check it out. Hopefully I can then re-distribute this cleaned email. Thanks for the tip though. I'll report my findings and a "How To" here if I get it to work


Me too :)


I've cancelled mine too. Was getting 1.5 kb/s


Some people just aren't satisfied :)


Franky I can see why. I used Vista for the very first time today at a clients. All I was trying to do was set up some email accounts and I realised that Microsoft had gone crazy during the years of development. I moved from Windows to Mac (and Linux) and don't regret it one bit. Now I've seen Vista I wonder how a company of that size can get something so wrong


"Now I've seen Vista I wonder how a company of that size can get something so wrong"

Perhaps because it's a company of that size.


Agreed, I've often wondered about the division of labour at MS HQ. Someone told me today that there is a dedicated team of around 50 people just devoted to managing the "Start" button.

A software idea can be built many ways and usually more than one of these will be "right". But the moment you have a group of people with equal control and conflicting "right" ideas, you end up with something quite decidedly "wrong".

Small core development teams, with one visionary produces better, more usable software. For me, I will always take a product that feels easier to use than one overstuffed with obscure features. Hence, I use a Mac as my primary machine (also flit between Debian and occasionally XP).


> there is a dedicated team of around 50 people just devoted to managing the "Start" button.

Worse: it took 43 people just to build the shutdown feature.

http://moishelettvin.blogspot.com/2006/11/windows-shutdown-c...

This article will tell you everything you ever needed to know about why Vista turned out the way it did.


Vista hate is amazing lately. What does setting up email accounts have to do with the underlying OS, again?


A friend of mine just emailed 3 of her friends saying:

"I just bought a new BlackBerry, it requires Outlook, how do I get it on my computer with Vista"

For her it turned into a 5 hour process to install an email client built by the same company. I would say this has a great deal to do with the usability of the underlying OS.


on Mac, a reasonably nice email client comes with the OS.


in most Linux distributions, a reasonably nice [insert arbitrary commonly used application] comes with the OS


why is that a reply to me?


I assume because it uses your argument against you.


umm, i gave a reason that email setup would be relevant to os (i.e., in a vista criticism). i did not say "omg mac is so much better than linux".


It wasn't clear whether you were criticizing Vista or responding to my claim that the goodness of default email clients was irrelevant to the evaluation of the OS.

These OS war threads are always overheated and people basically read what they want to read into your comments. Sorry for misunderstanding. I'm pretty done with this.

edit: I will say, though, the post re:linux also could be understood to point out the weakness of your argument in general, and not so much to claim that linux is better than both OS's.


Now I've seen Vista I wonder how a company of that size can get something so wrong

I have a theory about this: it's the inevitable outcome of Microsoft's technical culture. Their culture - across many products and many years [1] - has been one of making complicated things more complicated. What happened with Vista was that, responding to criticism about security flaws, they set about addressing the problem in their same old way... and the runaway complexity finally blew up. They've used all the tricks in the book (and then some) making machines to make machines to create fingers to plug the millions of holes in the dyke. Now they've run out of fingers, and even slathering on the glitz can't hide the Rube Goldberg nature of their monstrosity. It's becoming plain even to end users who've never known anything but Windows.

If this is correct, then the Vista fiasco isn't really about Vista; if it weren't that it would have been something else. It's about what eventually happens when you make complicated things more complicated. It's a Sorcerer's Apprentice story. What's amazing is that they were able to hold it up for so long.

I really don't know if that's correct, but if it is, then I'm glad it's happening. I don't like complicated designs or code and I spend a lot of time trying to make mine simple. Someone (Spolsky?) said that for years at Microsoft, "computer-sciencey" was a term of derision used to diss people like me - people who care about finding the simpler, more powerful idea, or the beautiful, most essential design. Watching this implosion (if that's what it is) is satisfying, and not only because of Schadenfreude. For one thing, it confirms several fundamental beliefs (such as that runaway complexity is unsustainable). For another, MS had a huge influence on the software development world, one which has been pernicious in this respect. They didn't just legitimize the idea of making complicated things more complicated, they standardized it. (Look at MSDN Magazine: a new flavor every month and yet they're all the same.) The Vista fiasco is going to have a number of long-term effects; perhaps one will be to lessen this influence, and increase that of technical cultures in which design is valued.

[1] When .NET came out, I was struck by how much simpler it was than the MS stack that preceded it, which was a hideous mess. I wondered whether they had taken a new turn; subsequently it became clear that they hadn't. The better-designed parts of .NET (C#, the core libraries, and the CLR) were an anomaly. Even the auxiliary parts of .NET were done the same old way, as has most subsequent stuff I've seen. I think what happened was that MS brought in some new, more competent people in the late 90s (the most prominent of whom was Hejlsberg). The stuff they built and/or influenced was better. But they didn't change the culture, nor could they have. And the culture always wins in the end.


Their culture - across many products and many years - has been one of making complicated things more complicated.

That's just the side effect of the backwards compatibility which proved so successful throughout the 90s, not as a design or marketing goal I assure you.

There's a limit to how backward compatible you can be without stepping on the feet of the applications that came before while still pushing innovative new ideas.


That's just the side effect of the backwards compatibility

I don't think this can be true, because the same culture is evident in their new technologies as in their upgrades. As I said, look at any issue of MSDN Magazine.


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