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The four most expensive words in the English language are "this time it’s different."

> https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Templeton


I too am skeptical of the usefuless of this data. along with the risks of self-reported information, there's also going to be some skew towards people who have high income since (a) they are proud to share it and (b) people who are lower paid might be reluctant to "admit" it


> I think Spotify might actually do better by creative innovative new engineering features and improvements

If the problem is user acquisition, you don't get there with engineering improvements. Only exception is if those tech/product improvements are for increasing virality.

Yes they'll probably spend the money on marketing / PR, which makes sense since that's likely where the bottleneck (or foreseeable bottleneck given the other players in the industry) in their business is now.


I'd argue that engineering improvements would be key for user acquisition.

Where is that massive growth supposed to come from if the app is too complicated for users older than 30 years and too bloated for devices older than 2 years?


For everyone downvoting Jamie, there are so many bloggers who have released their data on interstitials. In many cases, the trade-off is worth it: annoy a small percentage of users, but enjoy higher overall conversion rates.

I agree that there could be better ways to serve the popup (time-delay, wait until 2nd article viewed, etc) but if your argument is simply "turn it off because I dont like it, and it will never work" -- go look it up. One such example:

http://danzarrella.com/my-data-shows-email-popups-work-and-d...


(I work at Pie)

the key bit is that on Pie, everything gets a mini chatroom. so every discussion is focused. we're betting that as people share more and more stuff, they'll value group chat apps that help them organize and structure all these things.

on Flowdock, Slack, Hipchat, etc, people usually talk in a "catch-all" chatroom like "Product team" or "Marketing team" which (in our experience) gets messy quickly and it can get hard to share information there. it's often a mishmash of links, files, images and conversations.

So, Pie is great if you're in a team that shares a boatload of info: links, files, etc. gives you a message board layout as opposed to one huge stream.


Sorry to hear this. Kippt is a great product that I use almost daily. Thanks for keeping it open for a while and not shuttering immediately. Do you guys have a timeline for when you'll eventually take it offline?

For anyone looking for alternatives, my startup is working on something similar (share + chat what you find with your team: http://piethis.com


Thanks Sacha. For idea validation, I'm always curious where people draw the line. You set up a sign-up form on an existing page, yes. But how many signups do you need before you consider it validated and worth pursuing? 10 signups? 100? 1000?


It depends on how many people land on that page. If you have 100 visitors a day and you have 10 sign-ups a day, that's an awesome conversion rate and probably a sign you can consider your idea validated.

Or you can approach it the other way around. If you have 1000 emails and you expect to convert 5% of them for a $20 product, you know you'll earn $1000 from your current audience, and can plan from there whether or not that's enough to justify working on a project.

Those are all random numbers obviously, but you get the idea.


because it works. the site owner knows it's obnoxious, but the numbers justify the annoyance.


Does it really, though? Any hard numbers to back up the "it works"?


it would be much more productive to discuss the merits of the article and the author's efforts rather than trying to look smart.


great comment. a lot of people don't take the time to step back and think what they really want.


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