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It shouldn't be much of a surprise to learn that the r/bitcoin sub, bitcointalk.org, and several other bitcoin communities are owned by one and the same person that have a history of censoring dissenting opinions. Just read up on the r/bitcoin history.

Bitcoin is the illusion of decentralization.


> It shouldn't be much of a surprise to learn that the r/bitcoin sub, bitcointalk.org, and several other bitcoin communities are owned by one and the same person that have a history of censoring dissenting opinions. Just read up on the r/bitcoin history.

Cryptocurrency discussions are notoriously filled with astroturfing. It’s a lot like what would happen if present-day nation states quite literally lived and died based on the market price of 24/7 globally traded bearer shares. The saying “well kept gardens die by pacifism” is resoundingly true here, to put it mildly.

Historically, the opponents to the now infamous “Bitcoin as digital gold” narrative were pushing things like gigablocks, nodes in datacenters, “Bitcoin as PayPal 2.0”, let’s replace all the core developers, etc based on populist appeals. There was no way to distinguish between those populist appeals and attempts to foil Bitcoin socially by all manner of biased attackers (and just plain ignorant people).

I think it’s rather telling that after these people forked to Bcash, they subsequently capped the block size of Bcash to 32MB and are now ironically scaling Bcash via sidechains — e.g. SmartBCH — against the backdrop of historically claiming BTC would never increase in price past $300 USD without a block size increase. To say their entire worldview has been invalidated would be an understatement.


Lol. Can you personally verify what your bank is doing? No you can't. If it was on the blockchain, you could.


He's talking about the Financial System, not the Bank (akin to a node)


mining is actually worse because of economies of scale. rich miners don't need pools so they don't pay fees, they get bulk deals and earlier access to the newest ASICs, they can pay personnel to optimize their operations, etc.

so over time, the rich miners get richer at a faster rate than poor miners.

whereas under PoS, everyone gets the same % return (unless you stake with a pool, but even then you don't have these economies of scale like with mining.)


benefits like killing the environment.


and UASF are a thing in PoS as well, if some entity/entities acquire a majority of the staked coins users can simply fork the malicious actors out. It's functionally equivalent except that it's an order of magnitude more expensive to acquire the required coins as opposed to getting the equivalent in hashpower.


UASF is just "Proof of Subreddit Moderation".


Yeah sure, let me just buy a container full of ASICs worth hundreds of thousands of $$$ and I'll start mining: https://twitter.com/SGBarbour/status/1390504269925654532


It also costs a couple hundred bucks to run an Ethereum node. You are confusing running a validator and running a node, those are two independent things, just like mining and running a node.


And Satoshi, just one person, owns tens of billions in BTC. That is the top 0.01%.


Satoshi is not actively working to move Bitcoin to PoS though. And for all practical purposes, his stash is as good as gone.


Satoshi mined every single one of it and anyone would have been able to do same also he never sold his coins and left the project early on to avoid having too much control. Quite the opposite with Vitalik who on the other hand premined his eth, has been selling them Ever since, and continues to have significant control over ehereum.


Satoshi did the equivalent of ninja mining.


Yes. Any action performed in the network will consume 99.95% less energy after this change has gone through.


>because bitcoin users actually validate blocks

so do Ethereum users.

>In a PoS system there is an incentive for large stakeholders to increase block sizes.

this doesn't work because of Ethereum's social contract, just like it wouldn't work with Bitcoin.

Just because you stake a lot of ETH doesn't mean you suddenly have unilateral power to increase block sizes. There is a thing called consensus, and the entire community needs to achieve it to implement changes. Good luck trying to convince the community that bigger blocks that make it harder for small users to validate the chain is a good idea.


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