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My guess is once the date sees a nicer house, car, and bank account, the college degree bump drops like an anchor.


Going by post-secondary education status tends to filter for a character trait I’ve yet to name. The closest I’ve come is something akin to long-term emotional regulation. Obviously, there’s many, many exceptions to this.

I’ve worked in an environment where there was a mix of grads from certificate, diploma and degree programs.

There were certain “profiles” of people that you would come to expect from each “bin” and 8/10 times your hunches were right.


The trouble there is that you're probably out of your prime dating years by the time you're your own boss and really making big money in the trades. It takes time to establish and build that business, the early years can be pretty lean as people get the business going.


Most guys on the internet think a guy has to meet a high bar of requirements when really all they want is someone who is not so dependent on them: can take care of himself, cover his own bills, etc. Someone who’s self sufficient and doesn’t need a mother.

Sure, maybe that one girl passed on you in your 20s because you didn’t have the right credentials, but there are plenty of other people out there.


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I think the education and income requirements do (severely) limit the choices of ambitious women, but that’s their problem, not ours.

The rest of the requirements are reasonable, and imo, the attractiveness standard for men is way lower.

And more generally, there’s a place for venting. But make sure you aren’t making excuses for yourself, because taking action to improve your life is probably simpler than you think, and will make you happier.


> And more generally, there’s a place for venting. But make sure you aren’t making excuses for yourself, because taking action to improve your life is probably simpler than you think, and will make you happier.

Point take, though I'm married with children.

> but that’s their problem, not ours.

So it's my daughters' problem, hence my job to prepare them for.

More generally, though, I think it's linked to the electrician shortage as well as the ongoing population collapse.

Resourceful men can work around it relatively easily, and even use the hypergamy to their advantage.

But for society, the hypergamy is a factor that needs to be understood and either incorporated into the social structure (such as by allowing polygamy, like in Muslim countries) or by some other means that prevents the population collapse (and other problems) that the current hypergamous culture leads to.


The goal is not to be able to marry all women that ever existed. The goal is to marry one.


Well, I'm already married, and I think 1 is enough for me.

But the current trend where about 40% of men (much higher in some social groups) end up single, and not of their own choosing, I expect it to cause all sorts problems in the future, caused by frustrated men willing to take greater and greater risks to get access to women.


> I expect it to cause all sorts problems in the future, caused by frustrated men willing to take greater and greater risks to get access to women.

Those are exactly the men that would severely abuse wife if they were married. The only difference is that now, it is easier to escape them.


Actually, the effect may be the opposite. As risk taking is normalized, men, and especially those who do get access to women, tend to become more violent. This also affects the women and children.

Just look at the violent crime statistics of any area where the marriage rate is less than 40% and compare it to any area where the marriage rate is >80%.


In America, no. College-educated women are NOT interested in men without college degrees, no matter how much money they make. There might be rare exceptions for men that managed to become educated on their own after dropping out, like Steve Jobs.

It's not about the money, it's about the class, and also the pedigree. Blue-collar people are simply in a very different class than white-collar college-educated people. Their life experiences are completely different, and in the last few decades, with political polarization, their political views are 180 degrees different too.




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